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 Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 7 Oct 05 Posts: 234 Credit: 15,020 RAC: 0 |
Yes, but apparently Rosetta is not deployed in Ralph. :-( David Kim said it was safe to change the setting, so I'm very annoyed of losing Rosetta WU's to this bug. There was a discussion over there about this problem, that participating in Ralph should not be of the expense of Rosetta. In short, I want credit for the crashed Rosetta WU's due to Ralph testing! [b]"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me[/b] 
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Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
I understand what you are asking for. I will bring this to the attention of the Project folks, but I would not expect the credit awards for at least another month even if they decide to do that. I have just posted to Rom asking for some guidance for running RALPH along side Rosetta. I will post something when I have answers for you EDIT: I would also point out that when David Kim wrote that post (over a month ago), he thought he had fixed the problem and wanted to test the fix. He had not fixed it yet, but did not know that. Crashes and Work unit failures are part of Alpha testing, and the rules of engagement for Ralph have been very clear in that regard. I will put your question to the project team. But I would assume they will not treat this as a special issue. They have already said they plan to award credit for various groups of failed Work Unit types. The "Dropped from Memory" was one of those types. So please calm down and lets see what the project says about how they are going to handle this. SECOND EDIT: I have just sent a message off line about this issue. When I have an answer I will post it. But please try to rememeber, it is Sunday morning right now on the west coast of the US so it may be a few hours before people get around to reading their e-mail. Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 12280 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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Biggles Send message Joined: 22 Sep 05 Posts: 49 Credit: 102,114 RAC: 0 |
Didn't want to start a new thread unnecessarily. I'm a member of Ars Technica Team Vino Rose. Our captain has been inactive for over four months and is unreachable. Could an admin appoint a new captain, someone who is active? After much discussion on the Ars Technica Open Forum, we've decided to do a spot of team renaming. This has been fine and straight forward where the captains are regular and active members of Ars Technica, be it on the forums or the IRC channel. However, EG, the captain of our Rosetta team isn't. If you could help us out with this it'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks Biggles ID: 12690 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Didn't want to start a new thread unnecessarily. Sorry for the delayed response, but I wanted to look into what I can do before responding. I do not have the necessary access to make the change you have requested. I will send the issue to someone who does. Normally, teams hand these things off themselves so the project never gets involved. However I do see your problem since you cannot reach the person who started the team do do this. You are correct that that user has not contacted the project server since November. I will let you know what we can do (or someone from the project will) when I find out. EDIT/UPDATE: We are attempting to contact your team leader to have him contact you. If this does not work we have some other options. Let me know if you hear from him in the next day or so. Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 12718 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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Biggles Send message Joined: 22 Sep 05 Posts: 49 Credit: 102,114 RAC: 0 |
Thanks. So far I've not heard from EG, nor has he appeared on the Ars Technica forum. I haven't been on our IRC channel much, but there are some there who know of our BOINC team renaming and would have brought it to his attention. As far as I know EG hasn't contacted any other member of the team either. So we are still effectively captainless. ID: 12781 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Thanks. So far I've not heard from EG, nor has he appeared on the Ars Technica forum. I haven't been on our IRC channel much, but there are some there who know of our BOINC team renaming and would have brought it to his attention. As far as I know EG hasn't contacted any other member of the team either. He has also not responded to our attempts to contact him. I will raise this again with the project administrator, and perhaps he can find a few min to make the adjustment for you. Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 12786 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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Biggles Send message Joined: 22 Sep 05 Posts: 49 Credit: 102,114 RAC: 0 |
That'd be great, thanks for your help. ID: 12809 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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Keith E. Laidig Volunteer moderator Project developer  Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 154 Credit: 117,189,961 RAC: 0 |
We've been unable to contact this team's founder. As a result, we've reassigned Biggles as the team founder for the time being. Biggles can hand this off to whomever you folks wish to be the team founder.... ID: 13019 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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Biggles Send message Joined: 22 Sep 05 Posts: 49 Credit: 102,114 RAC: 0 |
Much appreciated. The team renaming has already been done and we've brought TVR inline with the rest of our BOINC teams. Only SETI and Predictor to fix now... Cheers Biggles ID: 13044 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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anders n Send message Joined: 19 Sep 05 Posts: 403 Credit: 537,991 RAC: 0 |
Hi Mod I propose that you unsticky the largest problem report threads and create new ones instead. They are just to large now. Regards Anders n 
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Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
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anders n Send message Joined: 19 Sep 05 Posts: 403 Credit: 537,991 RAC: 0 |
Good. thank you Anders n
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Misfit Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 79 Credit: 171 RAC: 0 |
Here's a great way you can help Rosetta. Delete fake accounts that are used for nothing more than trolling purposes. Here is one prime example. wanky = Angus He's been caught doing this over at SETI and Predictor as well! I expect this post to be moderated out of existance, but as long as you mods know about it then it has served its purpose. ID: 13934 · Rating: -2 · rate:
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Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Here's a great way you can help Rosetta. Delete fake accounts that are used for nothing more than trolling purposes. Here is one prime example. I have spent some time researching this issue this morning. The ID "wanky" which you reference, was created on March 12, 2006, has made no posts but has 15,000 credits associated with it, and a RAC of 2851. This could hardly be characterized as a "trolling" ID, used only for posting on the forums. If you compare the available stats on the ID "wanky" with your own for example, you will note that in your case you have posted almost 150 times on Rosetta, but you have only accrued 25 credits, and have a RAC of 2. There are many thousands of IDs that have credits and no posts so in reality this particular ID fits the profile of an average user at Rosetta. From the point of view of a user of the system it would not be possible for you to determine if the two IDs you mention are even owned by the same user. This is not even easy for the Systems Administrators. However, should ANY ID become problematic, I can assure you that the project will remove it. In this case there is no indication of any problems with the ID "wanky". Let me just mention in passing that I, and the other Moderators here, usually leave people alone to post their ideas, and exchange information so long as the conversation meets the guidelines we have been provide by the Project, and the posts are in the proper place. What happens on the boards at other projects is not our concern so long as it does not spill over to the Rosetta/Ralph forums. It is clear to any objective observer that spill-over is what we are dealing with here, as my attention was drawn to this situation by more than one user. I have no intention of taking sides in this. With that in mind, while I welcome your contributions to the forums here at Rosetta and Ralph, I would suggest that the Moderation team here is able to determine which threads should be closed and which should remain open. From my point of view the thread is owned by the person who opened it. While a user involved in a discussion will on occasion post a request for a thread to be closed. As a matter of forum etiquette, it is a REQUEST, not a posting directly closing the thread. As a moderator, I will honor those requests if they come from the person who opened the thread. I will only honor them from another user if the owner concurs. Under any other circumstances such posts will be treated as spam or flaming and will be deleted. Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 13954 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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Misfit Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 79 Credit: 171 RAC: 0 |
The ID "wanky" which you reference, was created on March 12, 2006, has made no posts but has 15,000 credits associated with it, and a RAC of 2851. This could hardly be characterized as a "trolling" ID, used only for posting on the forums. If you compare the available stats on the ID "wanky" with your own for example, you will note that in your case you have posted almost 150 times on Rosetta, but you have only accrued 25 credits, and have a RAC of 2. There are many thousands of IDs that have credits and no posts so in reality this particular ID fits the profile of an average user at Rosetta. From the point of view of a user of the system it would not be possible for you to determine if the two IDs you mention are even owned by the same user. This is not even easy for the Systems Administrators. However, should ANY ID become problematic, I can assure you that the project will remove it. In this case there is no indication of any problems with the ID "wanky". Mod9 perhaps some coffee will help you out. I'd think a mod would not mistake an account ID (149) for the post count (18) unless your error was made in your haste to lecture me. The wanky acct on the other projects were also made long ago and have credits.. and are NOW being used by Angus to spam the boards. (As of this edit the name has been changed to willy1.) It is a mistake to make your determination on an account based on credits since those same credits come from the same set of computers and would normally go towards the original. I'll post links below for you to read as far as the "proof" goes. But in a nutshell he was caught changing the username over at Predictor. Then he admitted it over at SETI. As you have already read my other post you know that it was to bring the issue to your attention, which I have succeeded. How you deal with the information, if you choose to do so, is your business. From my point of view the thread is owned by the person who opened it. While a user involved in a discussion will on occasion post a request for a thread to be closed. As a matter of forum etiquette, it is a REQUEST, not a posting directly closing the thread. As a moderator, I will honor those requests if they come from the person who opened the thread. I will only honor them from another user if the owner concurs. Under any other circumstances such posts will be treated as spam or flaming and will be deleted. Yes it is spill over and you have just proved my point to Angus where he has deliberately spammed threads for the only fact that they were closed by the thread author. Thank you! There have been more supporting evidence but this was the original post. Since the acct name was just recently changed you'll have IP info to go with it. Admin can check the weblogs against both accounts. As I have said previously you can delete this whenever you want as it was meant only for you mods. [email protected] ID: 13987 · Rating: -0.99999999999999 · rate:
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Snake Doctor Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 182 Credit: 6,401,938 RAC: 0 |
"Misfit" It occurs to me that this sort of thing might be handled better by using the mod9 e-mail contact. Especially since, as was noted, the wanky ID has not even posted here. If what you say is true, this sort of discussion will only serve to provide yet another opportunity for a flame war. In my experience with his posting, he does not need much encouragement to set him off, and he certainly does not need to be provided the opportunity that this discussion provides him to spout off. From what I have seen, the Mods probably already know there is a problem anyway. Note his thread attacking the Rosie Mods for some supposed power grab, when in fact it was a CPDN mod.  We Must look for intelligent life on other planets as, it is becoming increasingly apparent we will not find any on our own. ID: 13991 · Rating: 1 · rate:
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Misfit Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 79 Credit: 171 RAC: 0 |
and a RAC of 2851. I forgot to add.. actual RAC is only 124 (Synergy stats). It's been a month since the last return. @Snake: I read about the CPDN mods; that was unfortunate indeed. With the name change to willy1 he's obviously active with it... and it allowed me to find another one over at SETI. I understand it hasnt been used to post here.. but there is always that first time, as was on the other two projects. Perhaps after this it will not occur here. Anyway, good idea with the mod email. Since I'm sure this will all soon disappear they can include it with the moderation notice if they wish to continue off board. Bye bye. ;) [email protected] ID: 13992 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
The ID "wanky" which you reference, was created on March 12, 2006, has made no posts but has 15,000 credits associated with it, and a RAC of 2851. This could hardly be characterized as a "trolling" ID, used only for posting on the forums. If you compare the available stats on the ID "wanky" with your own for example, you will note that in your case you have posted almost 150 times on Rosetta, but you have only accrued 25 credits, and have a RAC of 2. There are many thousands of IDs that have credits and no posts so in reality this particular ID fits the profile of an average user at Rosetta. From the point of view of a user of the system it would not be possible for you to determine if the two IDs you mention are even owned by the same user. This is not even easy for the Systems Administrators. However, should ANY ID become problematic, I can assure you that the project will remove it. In this case there is no indication of any problems with the ID "wanky". In fairness to you, I did not spend a lot of time researching this on other stats sites. In fairness to me I did not need to, I do get around some. I have a better understanding of the issues here than you might suspect. Moreover, I was not in a hurry to lecture anyone. My point was, that to date, the "wanky" ID has not been a problem here at Rosetta. Clearly, if it becomes an issue it will be dealt with in concert with the System Administration team. The same goes for the "willy1" Id you have now added to the discussion. I did want to gently suggest to you that while I welcome anyone pointing out issues, it is not helpful to me or the project do so by spamming the threads on the forums. From what I could tell, the only basis for that was that a particular user, who is unpopular to you and some other users had started the thread. While I can act to correct a user based on some overt act, neither I nor any of the other Moderators here are likely to act on some possible future objectionable act. Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 13994 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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ljac257 Send message Joined: 12 Feb 06 Posts: 2 Credit: 17,189 RAC: 0 |
I don't want to take part on Rosetta@home any more. Is there a way to delete my account on Rosetta@home by administrator? ID: 14027 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
I don't want to take part on Rosetta@home any more. Is there a way to delete my account on Rosetta@home by administrator? There is no way I know of that you can delete your account. The Administrative staff can do it, but they usually do not worry about having old account around. However you can simply "Detach" from the project using the BOINC Manager "Detach" Function. 1) In BOINC Manager, click on the "Projects" tab. 2) Select the Rosetta Project by clicking on it 3) On the left of the window a number of buttons will appear, in the list of buttons marked as "Tasks" the last button is the "Detach" button. Click the detach button and your computer will be disconnected from the project. Your account records will still be kept on the server, and if you decide to come back you can do so at any time. If I might ask, why do you want to leave? Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 14028 · Rating: 0 · rate:
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