I'm getting errors occasionally and need to know where to report them for my version of Rosetta. The error messages have been as follows:

(type is in red:)
rosetta@home 5/26/2006 9:19:51 PM rosetta not responding to screensaver, exiting
rosetta@home 5/26/2006 9:19:51 PM Unrecoverable error.....,etc... (-exit code_ 1 (0xcffffffff)

.....after more dialog, the end result states that the application is terminated.

I have had this same error happen a number of times since I started running Rosetta. (less than two weeks) I think I read on the site somewhere that credit is earned for all work done. I am not concerned in this regard. I see that there are links provided to report errors for specific versions of Rosetta. I don't see a link for the newer clients to report bugs, so this is why I'm using this thread. If you move this to another thread, please let me know to where it's been moved for future reference. Thank you.

You can always find the proper thread for reporting in This thread. But I suspect you are running Rosetta version 5.16. If that is the case you can report problems here. I will move your post there.

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Q. Which ports does Rosetta@Home need open?


A. Port 80 (http) is used for most communications with the project servers. Port 443 (https) is used if the password is being exchanged . Ports 1043 and 31416 are used for local control as well as for remote control of a BOINC client. 1043 is preferred and 31416 is a fall back. Unless you are RPC'ing over the Internet don't open 1043 and 31416 in your non-local firewall specifically for BOINC.

https isn't used to exchange the password, the password isn't even sent, only a hash of the password (use Ethereal to see for yourself), rosetta using http by default, will have the hash sent on port 80

the newer boinc clients use port 31416 by default now

to communicate with project servers ports shouldn't need to be opened, unless a firewall/router is really dumb, any connection from the client-side should be allowed to pass (and it's returning data), a software firewall might prompt the user to allow boinc to access the internet/manager, but this is a software-level thing, not a port-level thing



i'll update this in the wiki as well :)

There is a discussion thread on this subject in number crunching, but the original post was intended for a wider audience then just Windows-Xp and BOINC 5.4.9. Not all systems do this automatically or even tell the user to do it. In some cases the firewall is not under the users control and the ports must be provided by others who will need all the information in the original post.

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On a separate note. I'd like to suggest a new addition to the FAQs. One which addresses the question "What is the process to suggest revisions to these FAQs?"

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Hi,

in thread

PROJECT INFORMATION AND HELP INDEX!!!
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1769

the last item (17) seems to be about Wikipedia, but it points to BakerLab papers.

You probably need two links, one to the publications and another to wikipedia.

Keep up the good work, Dimitris

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Hi,

in thread

PROJECT INFORMATION AND HELP INDEX!!!
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1769

the last item (17) seems to be about Wikipedia, but it points to BakerLab papers.

You probably need two links, one to the publications and another to wikipedia.

Keep up the good work, Dimitris

Dr. Baker asked for that link to provide access to the Rosetta papers. That is the reason for the targeted link.

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At my job theres about 20 old PCs that my boss is planning on scrapping. Their all old, mostly pre-windows 2000 at most. one or 2 may meet the system requirements for rosetta but not all do. My question is, if i take these computers home, and set them all up to run the rosetta project will it matter if the system requirements do not meet? I wouldnt be using the computers for anything else but the rosetta project so thats why im wondering if i can make an exception in this case. Thanks please advise
Regards,
Jose

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I'd like to point out some of my machines. . I run a department of computers from 'sucky' to 'brand new'. The lower end machines are only ~400mhz, with 128MB of RAM, but they are still able to return sucessful results to the project. I'd say every little bit helps :)

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=178

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At my job theres about 20 old PCs that my boss is planning on scrapping. Their all old, mostly pre-windows 2000 at most. one or 2 may meet the system requirements for rosetta but not all do. My question is, if i take these computers home, and set them all up to run the rosetta project will it matter if the system requirements do not meet? I wouldnt be using the computers for anything else but the rosetta project so thats why im wondering if i can make an exception in this case. Thanks please advise
Regards,
Jose

You can try ANY machine on which you can load the software. It may work on some and it may not. If the machine is below the project requirements it may not work, but there are no implications for the project in this issue. The only problems I can see are related to the short deadlines for CASP. If the machine is really slow, you might want to run it with the shortest time setting (1 or 2 hours) so it can meet the deadlines.

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I have asked the reporter to contact me so I can help. So far no response. When I hear back I can put things in place.

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...The only problems I can see are related to the short deadlines for CASP. If the machine is really slow, you might want to run it with the shortest time setting (1 or 2 hours) so it can meet the deadlines.
I think you mean to say to run at a longer time setting, since it will take a slow machine a long time to even do one variant. If the setting is left at 1 or 2 hours, the user should be aware that the runs will probably last longer because the software will not quit until one variant is achieved.

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...The only problems I can see are related to the short deadlines for CASP. If the machine is really slow, you might want to run it with the shortest time setting (1 or 2 hours) so it can meet the deadlines.
I think you mean to say to run at a longer time setting, since it will take a slow machine a long time to even do one variant. If the setting is left at 1 or 2 hours, the user should be aware that the runs will probably last longer because the software will not quit until one variant is achieved.

Actually, I think you're both misstating it. A slower machine crunches a WU with a 3hr runtime pref. in the same 3 hours that it takes a fast machine (it just gets less models completed and earns less credits due to the slower CPU).

Regardless of the speed of the machine, if the machine is not crunching 24hrs a day, then you'll want to be sure your WU runtime preference is short to assure the WU ends and reports before the deadline.

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Suggestion: Unsticky the 10 reasons people crunch Rosetta thread, and post some of the other reasons posted in the thread into the new webpage linked off the homepage. And people will find the thread from there, and if updates are made, that will keep it high on the list.

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...The only problems I can see are related to the short deadlines for CASP. If the machine is really slow, you might want to run it with the shortest time setting (1 or 2 hours) so it can meet the deadlines.
I think you mean to say to run at a longer time setting, since it will take a slow machine a long time to even do one variant. If the setting is left at 1 or 2 hours, the user should be aware that the runs will probably last longer because the software will not quit until one variant is achieved.

Actually, I think you're both misstating it. A slower machine crunches a WU with a 3hr runtime pref. in the same 3 hours that it takes a fast machine (it just gets less models completed and earns less credits due to the slower CPU).

Regardless of the speed of the machine, if the machine is not crunching 24hrs a day, then you'll want to be sure your WU runtime preference is short to assure the WU ends and reports before the deadline.

Actually the point was to set the time setting to a low value and let the time sort itself out.

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I am new to Rosetta and Boinc, but I have used the old seti@home project in the past. I was concerned with a computation error I had received with work a work unit producing a result 23954214. It isn't the fact that I had an error that concerns me, but rather the result work unit ID 20210159 that had me concerned.

While looking at the results for this WU, I noticed another user (host detail 70228) listed in the results. I then looked at this user's results page (results 70228) and was confused.

I understand that multiple users may be working on the same work unit at the same time, but I don't understand how an error can occur because of it. I don't really care about the results or credit for all it matters, but why perform a task if it isn't going to be of any use.

My concern pertains to the users results page. Is this a watchdog program? Is this theft of results or partial results to jump ahead of a user working on the same work unit?

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I am new to Rosetta and Boinc, but I have used the old seti@home project in the past. I was concerned with a computation error I had received with work a work unit producing a result 23954214. It isn't the fact that I had an error that concerns me, but rather the result work unit ID 20210159 that had me concerned.

While looking at the results for this WU, I noticed another user (host detail 70228) listed in the results. I then looked at this user's results page (results 70228) and was confused.

I understand that multiple users may be working on the same work unit at the same time, but I don't understand how an error can occur because of it. I don't really care about the results or credit for all it matters, but why perform a task if it isn't going to be of any use.

My concern pertains to the users results page. Is this a watchdog program? Is this theft of results or partial results to jump ahead of a user working on the same work unit?

What you are seeing on the results page is normal.

In your case the work unit did have some kind of error. When it was reported back, the work unit was sent to another user for processing. In his case his machine was able to complete the work unit without error. If you look at the reporting dates for the results yours was on the 12th and his was on the 13th. The two computers involved were not working on the work unit at the same time.

As for the work unit appearing in the stats for your machine and another as well, this is also normal for a work unit the has an error. This is because error work units are frequently sent out for a second try. In some cases they may be sent to as many as 3 computers total.

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It has been listed in the news on the home page.

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When I try to update my "Message board preferences" I get the following error:
Couldn't update forum preferences.
Unknown column 'minimum_wrap_postcount' in 'field list'

Is there a fix listed for this?

I have only seen this one other time, and it was related to the size of an avatar. I will see if the system admin can find anything about this.

EDIT: I send you a message off line regarding moving your original message to the server upgrade problem reporting thread (here). It should get faster attention there, and I have sent a message to the system admin.

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